Destroying a Trump supporter

Introduction

This is a debate I had a long time ago with a Trump supporter. It started because I read his article responding to Anne Applebaum and wanted to call out how blatantly empty and AI fuelled it is. He replied and then we had a short back-and-forth, during which I absolutely dismantled both the "arguments" in his article, and that he uses AI to write everything for him.

Enjoy!

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Original article

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A response to Anne Applebaum, “Trump’s Allies Aren’t Coming,” The Atlantic, March 2026

There is something almost poignant about the current wave of “America Alone” commentary. It is deeply researched, elegantly written, and exquisitely calibrated to explain a world that no longer exists. Anne Applebaum’s piece in The Atlantic is exemplary of the genre: lucid, historically grounded, and operating on axioms that COVID quietly buried four years ago. Allow us to read the same facts through a different lens — one that doesn’t require us to pretend that 2019 is still the baseline.

The thesis of the allied-rejection argument goes roughly like this: Trump’s allies won’t join his Iran war because he has spent fourteen months alienating them, because he threatened Denmark over Greenland, because he “rarely remembers favors,” and because they’ve learned that appeasement earns nothing. This is true. It is also, as an explanation of geopolitics, roughly as useful as noting that a storm damaged a building that had already been condemned.

The Watershed Nobody Named

COVID was the hinge. Not a disruption — a “rewiring*” Before it, the architecture of Western alliances ran on shared values, polite communiqués, and what might charitably be called “democracy under the American umbrella, credit card attached.” The implicit bargain was elegant: America provided security and reserve currency; allies provided legitimacy and the comfortable fiction of a rules-based order maintained by consensus.

COVID stress-tested that bargain and it did not pass. Supply chains fractured along national lines. Vaccines went to the powerful first. “Solidarity” became a word leaders said into cameras while their logistics teams were on the phone with defense contractors. The lesson the world absorbed — quietly, without a summit to mark it — was that in genuine systemic shocks, price beats principle every time.

Read Trump as a diplomat and he looks erratic. Read him as a price-setter and he is the most coherent actor in the room.

This is the frame that transforms the current crisis from baffling to legible. Trump is not behaving like an alliance manager. He is behaving like a man who knows he controls something the world needs — security, dollar liquidity, the implicit underwriting of global trade — and is, for the first time in decades, openly charging for it. Whether one finds this admirable or alarming is a separate question. Whether it is “coherent” is not: it plainly is.

On NATO’s Convenient Obsolescence

The allied refusal to join the Hormuz effort has been framed as a rebuke to Trump. Germany’s Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said, with the authority of someone who had clearly rehearsed the line: “This is not our war; we did not start it.” France’s Macron announced his country would “never” join operations in the current context. Britain’s Starmer clarified that the strait has never been “envisioned as a NATO mission.”

These are all correct statements. They are also, if we’re being precise, a description of NATO’s structural obsolescence rather than a moral position. NATO was not designed for drone warfare, energy chokepoint coercion, or conflicts where the aggressor-victim distinction is genuinely murky. It was designed for tank columns crossing the Fulda Gap. That it has limited relevance here is not a triumph of allied principle — it is an institutional category error wearing a press release.

What the allies actually calculatedA European diplomat told NBC News the arithmetic plainly: “He’s asking us to help for a war he started.” The calculation isn’t moral — it’s actuarial. European navies sent to the Gulf would not guarantee the strait reopens. Iran needs only a drone or a mine to keep it closed “as long as it likes.” The risk-reward of joining is genuinely terrible, and no amount of allied solidarity changes that arithmetic.

The countries that do understand the new system — Poland, Finland, the Baltics — are not refusing. They have quietly relearned what Western Europe forgot: that security is not a moral alliance. It is a priced dependency. They are paying their price. The others are discovering what happens when you stop.

The Structural Alignment Nobody Wants to Admit

Here is the part of the analysis that legacy frameworks genuinely cannot process: India and China are, right now, structurally aligned with the United States — not politically, not ideologically, but economically. Roughly twenty percent of the world’s oil trade passes through the Strait of Hormuz. China receives a substantial share of Iran’s oil exports. India’s energy security runs directly through the Gulf. Both nations have categorically declined to join Trump’s coalition. Both nations also need the strait to reopen.

Which means — and this is the elegant, uncomfortable logic the “America Alone” frame cannot accommodate — that Beijing and New Delhi become pressure on Tehran whether they intend to or not. Their economic exposure converts them into implicit stakeholders in American strategic success. Not allies. Not partners. Stakeholders. The distinction matters enormously.

Trump’s delayed China summit, his public gestures toward Beijing, his call for nations “that receive oil through Hormuz” to “take care of that passage” — these are not the moves of a diplomat seeking coalitions. They are the moves of a price-setter making the cost structure visible to everyone who depends on the system he currently controls.

The Doctrine Replacing the Old Language: Peace Through Price

“Stability has a cost” — and it is no longer bundled into NATO membership dues.

“Prosperity has a cost” — and the Strait of Hormuz is now the invoice.

“Legitimacy has a cost” — and “the rules-based international order” is not a currency anyone is currently accepting.

“The only consequential question remaining” is who holds the power to set the price.

What the Atlantic Analysis Gets Right — and Stops Short Of

Applebaum is correct that Trump doesn’t remember favors. She is correct that fourteen months of Greenland threats, tariff whiplash, and casual contempt for allied dignity have corroded something real. Trust, once damaged, does not repair on a news cycle. “It’s not possible to just forget what happened with Greenland,” one European diplomat observed with admirable understatement.

But the analysis stops precisely where it becomes most interesting. The question is not whether allies feel aggrieved — they manifestly do. The question is whether their grievance changes the structural reality of who sets the price of global stability. And here the answer is, uncomfortably, no. An aggrieved France still needs Hormuz open. An aggrieved Germany still needs dollar liquidity. An aggrieved Japan still needs American security guarantees in the Pacific — and is about to discover, in a summit with Trump, exactly what the current rate card looks like.

The Atlantic framework asks: will allies come to America’s aid? The post-COVID framework asks: can any of them afford not to, eventually? These are different questions with different answers, and conflating them produces exactly the kind of analysis that is impeccably sourced, historically literate, and one paradigm behind.

A Closing Observation

So no: this is not “America Alone.” Alone implies isolation. What is actually happening is something far more uncomfortable for those who prefer the old vocabulary — a post-COVID world in which alliances follow cost, legitimacy follows power, and the nation that controls the pricing mechanism is still, despite everything, the United States. The European reluctance is real. The moral objections are valid. The international law arguments are coherent. And none of it changes who is currently holding the rate card.

History will judge whether this is wisdom or catastrophe. It may, with characteristic indifference, judge it both. But reading it as diplomatic failure — rather than as the first explicit chapter of a new system — is to mistake the map for the territory. The old map was beautiful. It is also no longer accurate.

The pre-COVID manuals were excellent. They should be archived with care, and consulted with historical interest, and not mistaken for a guide to the country we are currently traveling through.

In response to: Anne Applebaum, “Trump’s Allies Aren’t Coming,” The Atlantic, March 2026. Current events sourced from reporting by Time, NBC News, NPR, CNN, Bloomberg, CNBC, and Semafor, March 2026. The 2026 Iran War began February 28 with U.S.-Israeli airstrikes on Iran.

Response 1

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Pro-Trump AI Slopaganda is something I irrationally hoped I would never encounter (there’s 42 em-dashes in that text):
[Link to the article]

O2

When the Analyst Runs Out of Arguments, He Counts Dashes.

While irrationally counting em-dashes and shouting “AI slopaganda,” labeling becomes a convenient substitute for analysis. It sounds intellectual, costs nothing, and avoids the harder task—offering an actual assessment. Yes, I use AI to edit—because in 2026, refusing AI tools is like refusing calculators in engineering. The editing is assisted; the thinking is mine.

So the real question remains: what is your assessment, beyond punctuation?

And since you are Polish, this should be especially visible. Poland did not survive the post-COVID repricing by counting grammar marks—it survived by buying tanks, securing borders, and treating logistics as destiny. While parts of Western Europe debated tone and symbolism, Poland priced risk and prepared for reality.

That is the essence of Peace Through Price: those who measure threats survive; those who measure punctuation write elegant obituaries.

R2

There are several reasons why I dislike AI slop:

To move on to my assessment of the Article, I think it’s wholly wrong. To start with, us Europeans provided tons of worth to the US in our alliance, from access to our markets, to intelligence sharing, to military coordination, to diplomatic support.

Trump’s approach of destroying the alliance system that made the US great in the first place is beyond insanity. He’s destroying the backbone of American power and legitimacy for decades to come for no good reason. Europe is already looking for new trading partners as evidenced by the trade deals with MERCOSUR and India. It is already building up its defenses in the case of US abandonment. When the US inevitably tries to enact some grand changes on the world stage, they’ll no longer be able to rely on European help. When US companies look for markets to sell their products, they will have way higher competition within the European economies. The US will be worse off in the future.

As a last point, I’m Czech, not Polish, though I’m not sure how that’s relevant.

O3

You’re Arguing 2018 in a 2026 World.

Firstly, Journalists now have to compete with AI. That alone explains much of the hostility. AI lowers entry barriers. It allows people outside traditional media circles - like myself, people with domain experience, to publish, analyze, and challenge established voices. That is uncomfortable competition, but not intellectual catastrophe.

Secondly, Your alliance argument would have been solid in 2018. But the geopolitical fabric shifted between 2019–2024: COVID, supply chain shocks, energy weaponization, and the war in Ukraine repriced security. Not just analytical frameworks became outdated, but parts of NATO did as well. Alliances built for symbolic unity now face logistics, industrial capacity, and deterrence math.

Thus, if you watch Trump through pre-2019’ lenses, yes, chaotic misalignment. But in 2026, it is NATO misaligned- not Trump. And War in Ukraine is a witness.

Lastly, yes, being Czech is relevant, not irrelevant. Czech Republic sits on one of Europe’s strongest military-industrial traditions. In a world returning to manufacturing, ammunition output, and hardened supply chains, Czech industry is not a relic, but an advantage. (No wonder Hitler moved to Chech first, best armor) Countries with factories matter more than countries with speeches.

You’re analyzing continuity; I’m analyzing rupture.

R3

Since you don’t seem to be able to actually engage with what I’m saying by replying to points, I will now mirror your tactics to show you how stupid this AI argumentation is:

When the Tool Becomes the Crutch

The calculator analogy would land if what we were looking at resembled precise computation. It doesn’t. A calculator produces verifiable outputs; this produces layered phrasing that mimics insight without consistently delivering it. Using AI to “edit” is not the issue — the issue is that the style it encourages tends to smooth over gaps in reasoning, making assertions feel argued when they’re often just rephrased. If the thinking is entirely yours, it should be able to survive without being wrapped in a layer that constantly gestures at depth instead of demonstrating it.

When the Framework Replaces the Argument

There’s something telling about retreating into grand abstractions like “rupture” and “repricing” the moment concrete claims are challenged. It creates the impression of depth while conveniently avoiding the burden of demonstration. Declaring a paradigm shift is easy; substantiating it is the part that seems to keep getting deferred.

Yes, the world between 2019–2024 experienced shocks. That is not in dispute. What is in dispute is the leap from “the system was stressed” to “the system has been replaced.” Those are not the same claim, and treating them as interchangeable is precisely the kind of analytical shortcut that sounds profound while doing very little actual work.

The alliance system you keep relegating to “2018 thinking” did not evaporate during COVID. It adapted. Intelligence sharing did not disappear. Military coordination did not dissolve. The response to the war in Ukraine — sanctions, arms transfers, logistical integration — was not the behavior of a system that had been “repriced out of existence.” It was the behavior of a system under strain that still functions because it provides tangible value.

What you describe as “symbolic unity” is, in practice, the infrastructure that allows large-scale coordination to happen at all. Logistics does not exist in a vacuum. Industrial output does not coordinate itself. Deterrence is not priced in isolation from trust. These are not competing systems — they are interdependent layers. Stripping one away weakens the others.

The “Peace Through Price” framing has the same issue. It sounds decisive, but it reduces complex, multi-variable relationships into a single axis: cost. States do not operate like customers choosing between suppliers. They hedge, they diversify, they build redundancy. If anything, the behavior you’re pointing to in Europe — rearmament, new trade deals, hedging against U.S. unpredictability — is not evidence of successful “price-setting.” It is evidence of declining confidence in the reliability of the actor trying to set the price.

And that gets to the core problem: a pricing system only works if others accept the legitimacy of the entity setting the price. Erode that legitimacy, and what you don’t get is compliance — you get fragmentation.

Calling this a “rupture” does not make it one. It just reframes a contested transition as a settled reality.

You’re asserting a new map. I’m pointing out that large parts of the old terrain are still very much there — and still doing most of the work.

O5

Argumentation for the sake of argumentation in the absence of the frame is demagoguery.

If a journalist - a demagogue, so his prompts will reflect his demagoguery. No wonder AI generate response that AGREES with my frame, but argues with word choices :)))))

It argues about word “rupture”, but hasn’t offered alternative. If War in Ukraine is not “rupture”, then what is it?

Frame IS simplification of complex process for communication and analysis acceleration. Frame is compression. Example? When surgeons hear “appendicitis”, they immediately know the issue at hand without lengthy explanation and elucidations.

I am trained scientist and business strategist. I am trained to see frame-shifts and adjust my insight and prognosis. I also see if my opponents utilize frames, if ever. So far, you haven’t surprised me.

Last word about AI. It can provide knowledge, understanding, and content. Even excite tasks intelligently. But MEANING. That is your domain. And hearing music in noisy environments take training and frame.

not edited by AI, just my raw human thinking.

Lastly, read book “Think Again” by Adam Grant.

Good luck, my Czech Friend. (I see bright future for Czech Republic if the leadership adapts new frame, like Finland did.)

R6

See, now we're talking.

I provided a frame in my first response. Trump's approach is devoid of any strategic intent and will cause the decline of the US. I think your entire point of saying that there is some logical component (the price-setter thing) to it is plainly ridiculous.

The AI does not agree with your frame: "No, I’m not disputing your wording — I’m disputing your conclusion that the system has been replaced and that price dominates."

If you want I can give you why the AI disagrees with you on the word "rupture", but I guess we don't need the intermediaries now.

About AI: I don't see how that connects to anything I or my AI have written. I'm saying it sounds horrible and cleverly conceals weak arguments; you're saying that hearing music in noisy environments takes training.

Edit: Forgot to add, but since you recommended a book for me to read, I’d also like to make a recommendation. I recommend you listen to Sarah Paine’s recent interviews on the strategic mistakes the US is making.

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